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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 13 Dec 93       Volume 11 : Issue 239

Today's Topics:

      [*] biola-bolo-map.cpt.hqx
      [*] cessna-simulation-032.hqx
      [*] Chinese Poker 1.0.1
      [*] Final Chance 1.0 (INIT)
      [*] Final Chance 1.0 (source code)
      [*] Informer 1.0 beta 2 [PLANET SOFTWARE]
      [*] Jotto ][ 1.0 (source code)
      [*] Jotto ][ 1.0 (word game)
      [*] Keep It Up 1.0
      [*] sAVe the Disk 1.2.1
      [*] Scarecrow file
      [*] ScreenSnap2-4.hqx
      [*] tihts.hqx
      (Q) Modem
      660av SIG
      Biblography software for Word (A)
      CD Audio Connector in Quadra 610
      ClarisWorks 2.0 capabilitie
      CR-Rom : which standards will survive ?
      Damaged floppies
      Dayna SCSI/Link III
      Global Vilage Support (R)
      Global Village (C2)
      Hard Drive Leftovers
      LaCie
      LC upgrades?
      mac viruses...unix viruses?
      MO Drive Suggestions?
      New Hard Drive Needed (Q)
      PACo product
      Quadra 610 reset button (A)
      Quadra 610 restart and debugger buttons
      Quadra 660AV info (summary)
      Quadra 840AV RAM
      Re> Included Message on Apple
      sAVe the disk bugs
      slide maker
      Software buying help
      Steam Tables
      Stress testing app called Porky ?
      Value 040
      Watermarks (C)
      Word Oddities
      Word temp files and recovery

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 22:08:22 PST
From: John Saxton <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] biola-bolo-map.cpt.hqx

This is a Bolo map of the campus of Biola University in La Mirada, CA.

This map was created by Biola undergraduate computer science major Graham
Best,
using Photoshop, Bolotomy, BMAPEdit, and BoloStar, and has been extensively
beta-tested and approved by scores of resident students trying to avoid
studying by playing Bolo on the dorm network. This map was scanned from a
campus map in the University course catalog, colorized in Photoshop, converted
to a Bolo map by Bolotomy, and extensively retouched in BoloStar and
BMAPEdit.
It is a highly accurate representation of the university, even to the
placement
of trees. If you have any questions or comments about this map, please send
them to the map's author, Graham Best <[e-mail]>.

Biola is a Christian university with about 3000 students in 5 schools,
including the undergraduate school of Arts and Sciences, Talbot School of
Theology, Rosemead School of Psychology, the School of Intercultural Studies,
and the all-new School of Business. If you have any questions about Biola
University, please contact the postmaster <[e-mail]>, and he'll
get
you in touch with the right people.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/bolo/biola-map.hqx; 9K]

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 13:29:49 PST
From: [e-mail] (Sean Wakayama)
Subject: [*] cessna-simulation-032.hqx

Cessna Simulation is a flight simulator depicting dynamic motions of
the Cessna 172.  This is an engineering simulation solving 6 degree of
freedom aircraft motion.  Data recording abilities of the simulator
allow users to output flight data for plotting or analysis.

This new version, 0.3b2, corrects bugs that caused crashes on some
machines.  Users should have a Mac with 68020 or better CPU, an FPU,
and 4 MB memory.

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/cessna-simulation-032.hqx; 143K]

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 17:09:20 -0800
From: David Blume <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Chinese Poker 1.0.1

Chinese Poker 1.0.1

Requires: MacTCP,
      At least one other mac connected on a network.

Chinese Poker 1.0.1 is an interactive network card game for 2 to 4 players.
It is addictive and easy to learn.  (The goal is to discard your cards in
the form of valid poker hands before your opponents do.)  A 60 point game is
a perfect 10 minute break.

Revision Notes:
1.0.1  + User interface corrections.
       + System 6.X compatability. (Some cards were invisible under System 6.)
       + May use either host names or addresses in the "Connect" dialog.

Freeware by David Blume.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/crd/chinese-poker-101.hqx; 97K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 05:11:04 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Final Chance 1.0 (INIT)

Final Chance is a combination of fluff and utility.  On one hand, it gives
you a random quote on shutdown, which is pretty useless, really.  On the
other hand, it gives you a final chance to decide if you really want to shut
your Macintosh down, or if you want to exit to the Finder.

This INIT is free and is distributed under the GNU General Public License;
complete C source code will be uploaded to the archive sites.  If you do not
have FTP access, e-mail the author for a copy of the INIT, the source code, or
a list of other programs by the same author.  The address is [e-mail].

This INIT should work on all Macintoshes under either system 6 or 7, but I
can't say I've tested it under all environments.  Please report any bugs,
comments, and suggestions to [e-mail].

Final Chance 1.0 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/final-chance-10.hqx; 23K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 05:11:34 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Final Chance 1.0 (source code)

Final Chance is a combination of fluff and utility.  On one hand, it gives
you a random quote on shutdown, which is pretty useless, really.  On the
other hand, it gives you a final chance to decide if you really want to shut
your Macintosh down, or if you want to exit to the Finder.

This INIT is free and is distributed under the GNU General Public License.
This archive contains complete THINK C 6.0.1 source code and project files for
the INIT.  If you do not have FTP access, e-mail the author for a copy of the
control panel, the source code, or a list of other programs by the same
author.
The address is [e-mail].

This code demonstrates the basics of INIT installation, shut down procedures,
and loading dialog resources at INIT time to use later on.

Final Chance 1.0 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/final-chance-10-c.hqx; 39K]

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 16:43:54 CST
From: Spectreman <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Informer 1.0 beta 2 [PLANET SOFTWARE]

This is that program that lets you leave voice messages for co-workers
on your Mac.  It makes your Mac ring like a telephone too!

This new beta version has all but one minor bug fixed, and it has a cooler
interface now.

Definitely check it out!

Kenji Takeuchi

[Archived as /info-mac/app/informer-10b2.hqx; 354K]

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 18:02:14 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Jotto ][ 1.0 (source code)

Jotto ][ is a simple word game based on logic and frustration.  The computer
will pick a 5- or 6-letter word from a 2000+ word database, and you have 15
tries to guess it.  You will get feedback on how many letters in your guess
are in the actual word, but beware: each guess must be a valid word, or you
will or you will not get any feedback about it at all.

Jotto ][ is the sequel to Jotto and Jotto Deluxe, featuring better graphics,
more sounds, animation, the ability to play with either 5- or 6-letter words,
the ability to learn new words if desired, and better "about" boxes.  It
supports color, grayscale, and B/W monitors and works under system 6 or 7.
(For technical reasons, sounds may require system 6.0.7 or later.)  Please
e-mail comments and suggestions to the author at [e-mail].

This game is distributed under the GNU General Public License.  This archive
contains complete THINK C 6.0.1 source code and related project files.  It
also contains the source to another application used to set up Jotto's self-
integrity checker.  The code in this archive demonstrates handling events,
menus, apple events, a prefs file, Gestalt environment checking, hierarchical
menus, dialogs, windows, standard file dialogs, and the soon-to-be-famous
"cough to continue" modal dialog filter proc.  None of this is very well
commented, but feel free to direct any questions to [e-mail].

Jotto ][ 1.0 is copyright 1993 Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/jotto-ii-10-c.hqx; 464K]

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 18:00:32 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Jotto ][ 1.0 (word game)

Jotto ][ is a simple word game based on logic and frustration.  The computer
will pick a 5- or 6-letter word from a 2000+ word database, and you have 15
tries to guess it.  You will get feedback on how many letters in your guess
are in the actual word, but beware: each guess must be a valid word, or you
will or you will not get any feedback about it at all.

Jotto ][ is the sequel to Jotto and Jotto Deluxe, featuring better graphics,
more sounds, animation, the ability to play with either 5- or 6-letter words,
the ability to learn new words if desired, and better "about" boxes.  Jotto ][
is distributed under the GNU General Public License; complete source code will
be uploaded to the archive sites in a separate archive.  It supports color,
grayscale, and B/W monitors and works under system 6 or 7.  (For technical
reasons, sounds may require system 6.0.7 or later.)  Please e-mail comments
and suggestions to the author at [e-mail].

Jotto ][ 1.0 is copyright 1993 Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/jotto-ii-10.hqx; 346K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 13:20:59 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: [*] Keep It Up 1.0

Keep It Up version 1.0 (c) by Karl Pottie

Are you tired of getting the "The Application xxx has unexpectedly quit
because an error of type zz occurred" message ? Are you depending on this
application to keep running at all times, even when you're away ? Then you
should investigate "Keep It Up" (KIU), the new utility from the author of
Autoboot.

What does Keep It Up do ?

KIU watches certain applications and monitors if they are still running. If
an application no longer runs because it "unexpectedly quit" or because the
user quit it, KIU will attempt to relaunch this application or restart the
computer. This will ensure that your application is always running and
available. This is especially important for all kinds of server
applications.

Keep It Up requires System 7. This is $30 shareware.

Karl Pottie
e-mail:
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/keep-it-up-10.hqx; 139K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:12:40 +0100
From: Michael Thies <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] sAVe the Disk 1.2.1

December 13, 1993

The enclosed file is a bin-hexed/compact-pro archive.
I am the author of this FreeWare system extension,
which I call "sAVe the Disk".

This file contains version 1.2.1 of sAVe the Disk which
supersedes the previous version 1.1.

sAVe the Disk 1.2.1 fixes two deficiencies of the AV Macs:
It speeds up certain Resource Manager operations and prevents
extra disk activity before and after sounds are played.

sAVe the Disk works on Centris/Quadra 660av and Quadra 840av.
It requires System 7.1 and version 1.0 or 1.1 of the System
Enabler 088.
Although sAVe the Disk has not caused me any trouble I'm not
responsible for any (unlikely) problems you may experience.

This updated version adds compatibility with the 1.0 Enabler
and does not rely on the system's disk cache in any way.
Thanks to everybody who reported problems and/or helped in
testing this improved release.

Best regards,

Michael Thies.  ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/save-the-disk-121.hqx; 14K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:06:12 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Scarecrow file

   "The Scarecrow talks about Macs, software and related topics.  This
   stack has color, sounds, and animation.  Best used with 640x480
   color screens, but the text can be read on small B&W screens.  Works
   best if HyperCard can be given 2 or 3 megs of memory."

[e-mail] \ "I post to the net since they took away my crayons."

[Archived as /info-mac/info/scarecrow-file.hqx; 708K]

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 2:42:47 PST
From: Vaughan Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ScreenSnap2-4.hqx

ScreenSnap2-4.hqx

San Francisco, CA, 9 December 1993:
posting: ScreenSnap 2.4 screen capture shareware

Here's a new release of the shareware screen capture utility, ScreenSnap(TM)
version 2.4 for the Macintosh(R), included with this message.  ScreenSnap
2.4 supercedes ScreenSnap 2.3, released in June 1992.  I have since dissolved
Knowledge Source, Inc., so send suggestions and questions directly to me
now, at the address below.

ScreenSnap 2.4 lets you take a snapshot of any rectangular portion
of the Macintosh screen and save it in a window for later use.  Once
created, the snapshot can be inverted, moved, saved as a PICT file, copied
to the Clipboard (and pasted into applications), printed, or just left hanging
around on-screen for reference.   Because ScreenSnap uses PICT format for
its files, it can read the output of most drawing programs, and be used as
a PICT file viewer.  You can get pixel dimension information on any PICT
file (width, height, and depth).  ScreenSnap handles color, multiple monitors
(including snapping across monitors), and multiple screensnaps.  A
screensnap can be dragged from any point in its window.

Vaughan Johnson
59 Rosewood Drive
San Francisco, CA   94127
email (INTERNET): [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/util/screen-snap-24.hqx; 164K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 15:16:20 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Manuel CLAROS)
Subject: [*] tihts.hqx

TihTs implemented a new strategy for predicting transmembrane domains
of proteins and their putative topology when their localisation is the bacte-
rial inner membrane, the eucaryotic plasma membrane, and less accurately, the
mitochondrial and cloroplast outer membrane. The algorithm has been described
for baterial proteins in G. von Heijne, J. Mol.Biol 255,487-494 (1992), and
for
eucaryotic membranes in Sipos & von Heijne, Eur. J. Biochem. 213,1333-1340.

The program was first developed by G. von Heijne, and later modidfied by
myself with the permission of GvH.

Manuel G. Claros

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/tihts.hqx; 69K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 15:24:27 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Lonadar the Wanderer)
Subject: (Q) Modem

I was one of apperantly many who purchased the LineLink 144e modem.
However, after using a 1200 baud modem for my connection the the university's
UNIX machine, I am lost about how to configure my ZModem transfers.

I'm connecting at 2400 baud using ZTerm.  I used to use the following:

sz -rul 512 w 2048

And it worked fine.  However, now I am spouting 3 retries a second and a
high 'bps' of 19%.  Could someone please lead me in the right direction as
to how I can get the transfers to operate correctly?

Also, now that I have a faster modem, it includes lots more initilization
options.  I just used to use 'atx5m0'.  It is Hayes-compatable...  Could
anyone suggest what sort of options I should add to my string?

Replies in Mail would be appreciated, though digest replies are fine.

Thanks!

Victor E Aldridge III
Lonadar the Wanderer
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:31:37 -0700
From: [e-mail] (John Daspit, C.U. LASP, [phone])
Subject: 660av SIG

Hi,
    Can anyone point me to an information source on the new software
being developed specifically for the AV machines? Thanks mucho, JD Univ of
Colo.

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Date: 13 Dec 1993 20:23:39 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Mark H. Nodine)
Subject: Biblography software for Word (A)

I wrote a Shareware program to do bibliographics and
cross-referencing with Microsoft Word.  It's called
WordRef, the latest (released) version is 1.4.1, and
it lives on the archives at sumex.

    --Mark
--
E-mail: [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 10:57:47 MET-1
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CD Audio Connector in Quadra 610

Hi Netters,

When I recently opened my new Quadra 610 I discovered a 4 pin
connector labelled "CD Audio".
Is it possible to use this connector for external sound input (with a
selfmade cable)?

   Thanks,
   Stefan
   [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 09:43 GMT0
From: Pindar Infotek Ltd <[e-mail]>
Subject: ClarisWorks 2.0 capabilitie

>From Pindar user Ian McCall

Subject: _ClarisWorks 2.0 capabilities
I'm trying to find the capabilities of ClarisWorks 2's database.
Specifically, I'd like to know whether you can design a form which
contains checkboxes, similar to Filemaker Pro.

I'd also like to know how to go about designing a form which may
contain a variable number of records. It's a sales form I'm trying to
put together for my brother-in-law's company, and as such it may
contain a different number of items sold each time. I -could- just
create a form with an arbitrary limit, but it would be more elegant
if there was a method involving some form of extendable list.

I'm using ClarisWorks 1.0b at the moment, as bundled with the
Performa 400 (hence no full documentation).


Cheers,
      Ian



---
Please make 'Attn:<space>Ian McCall' the first line of your reply
(not the subject) to ensure automatic forwarding to the correct
Pindar user.

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 10:03:02 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Jean-Roch SCHMITT)
Subject: CR-Rom : which standards will survive ?

Dear fellow Netters,

As we are more and more suggested to buy CD-Rom drives and disks,
I think we should be aware of compatibility issues. In particular
if the PowerPC   KIND_OF    PC-Mac "merging" eventually results
in the availability of only one kind of product.

What I want to avoid is to buy something I should trash in some months.

First, I understand that there are at least two information formats :
Mac-HFS or ISO 9660. Are the current drives capable of reading both ?

Second, will the current drives' interface be compatible with the
expected future machines standards (SCSI 1 or 2) ?

Third, what about recordable CD-Roms or MiniDiscs ?

Fourth, if the disks must be specially "formatted" to be read at
2x/3x speed , which speed is to be the standard (4x, 5x, ...) ?

Then, I need your opinion/information on these topics and others
that you think is relevant.

Thanks for your help.

Jean-Roch SCHMITT

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 10:57:47 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Damaged floppies

The problems you are having are not caused by things that Norton fixes.
At the time Norton came out, First Aid HFS (now called 911 utilities)
did a good job on this. Most likely you have a bad sector right where
your directory is. Even MacTools and Public Utilities will do a better
job than Norton.

Try to unerase the files without fixing any directories. Sometimes when
you fix a directory in this case, the "fixed" directory will misrepresent
where one file leaves off and one begins. I have seen files where data
>From two files were combined into one file after Public Utilities "fixed"
the directory. In fairness, in this case the damaged files made everything
else crash so with Public Utilities I was able to get SOMETHING back. Never-
theless, in this type of situation, do not fix the directory until you have
fixed everything else.-Pete Tamas
[e-mail] or TempleVM.bitnet

On Mon, 13 Dec 1993 09:43:53 +0100 Timon Fliervoet said:
>Dear netters,
>
>I have a serious problem with a floppie disks, of which (how terribly bad)
>I did not make a back-up of. The disk contains some Mac-Draw files which
>are needed for an article.
>
>The problem: The disk is not readable, the finder gives a message whether I
>want to initialize
>
>Running Norton Disk Doctor give me the message: Catalog Tree bad data mark
>check sum, can't read BTree header invalid tree depth. Invalid number of
>catalog nodes.
>Norton couldnot fix the problem.
>
>With Diskdoctor I tried to recover what is left on the disk, I tried to
>recover all resources files. Doing so I retrieved a list of files all but
>three starting with a double question mark (??) and ending with a lot of
>numbers, e.g.:
>?? creep-instron844835070
>
>The recoverability was listed as poor, but doing the recovery all files
>appeared as MacDraw files in a folder on my hard disk. So far so good
>
>But, in trying to open these files with MacDraw, the computer freezes and I
>have to restart.
>
>Using resedit, I got the message: The resource map is incosistent with that
>operation (-199).
>Trying to verify the files: Sorry this fiel is damaged beyond repair, You
>should restore a backup copy, if possible (pretty bad hu?)
>
>Can anyone help me in retrieving my files or is this impossible. All help
>is welcome,
>
>TIA, cheers Timon
>
>------------------------------------------------
>Timon Fliervoet, [e-mail], Institute of Earth Sciences,
>Department of Geology, Utrecht University,  P.O. Box 80.021 3508 TA
>Utrecht, the Netherlands. tel: (0)30 - 535054, fax: (0)30 - 537725

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 18:03:27 -0500
From: Robert Scott Lillard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dayna SCSI/Link III

Since I have done my share of whining about products and the
Beavises that support them ... being the holidays and all I
decided to pass along a pleasant (albeit rare) story of some
outstanding customer support I recently received from Dayna
Communications.  To make a long story short the DaynaPort
SCSI/Link III I bought in Sept. was about as dead as a door nail.
 So I called Dayna and spoke with a tech by the name of John
Bergerson.  He went through the standard questions (did you
install the software correctly, run the diagnostics, "ping" your
IP address etc...).  At this point he told me to send the bad-boy
back.  I did and two weeks later I received a brandspankingnew
SCSI/Link III (new ser. # and all), and it worked. Not only that
but that afternoon Dayna (John) calls me to see if the problem is
solved ... at this point I want to marry the guy  :-)  but it
gets better ... five or so days latter he calls me again
(currently I am planning the honeymoon!@     ;-)
great support guys
scott

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:17:36 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Ulf Dittmer)
Subject: Global Vilage Support (R)

Hi netters,

couldn't resist to post in a recent experience I had with
GV's support via e-mail. I mailed them to ask how much
the TelePort Gold does actually cost and how I could order
one and pay for it electronically. No response. Didn't
want support or ehlp, just
want support or help, just buy a product of them. Apparently
they are not interested in that kind of affairs. It's no
wonder the mass is after the MacWareHouse thing. Pity,
I liked the TelePort Bronze a lot and it worked always flawlessly.
Just my DM 0.03 worth opinion.

Greetings,      Ulf
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 20:27:39 EST
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Global Village (C2)

Folks, my note about Global Village technical support the other day got
me a bunch of good information from a bunch of good folk, not the least
of whom was Scott Simon of Global Village. Scott told me that I should
have sent my queries to [e-mail] instead of the
address in the manual ([e-mail]). They also have
an anonymous ftp site (PMAIL.GLOBALVILLAG.COM) for the latest software.
Scott apologized for the manual. We have kissed and made up.

I assume Scott's information will be of use to y'all.

I also got a couple notes from people who were utterly aghast that I'd
have the temerity to say naughty things about Global Village. They have
not heard from me. If you can't spell "stupid bastard" properly, I will
not respond. That's my policy, folks.

Lordy buck! I reported. Three notes to GV at their published internet
address went unanswered. I don't believe I missed an address correction
in the disk's README, but I could be wrong. Certainly no one has called
me on it. One colleague chided me for not RYFM-ing before "flaming" a
fine firm like GV. That chap has obviously never met me. Leslye threw a
proper fit when the GV Gold arrived and I spent two hours reading and
re-reading the manual before even giving a thought to hooking it up. As
my boss's boss says, "Al isn't any genius. He just reads the manual."

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech


[Personally, I don't think Global Village is so hot. I bought two Gold modems
 at a fairly high price due to their good reputation on the net. They were
 to be used as AppleTalk Remote Access servers. Unfortunately, due to a ROM
 bug, about 5% of the time after they hung up the phone, they would go into
 dead-as-mutton mode. This took months to work out with their tech support
 people, which is fair enough, I suppose, given the cursed nature of most
 modems.

 The worst part started when they offered us a full refund. We shipped
 the modems back right away. Then we waited and waited for the check, getting
 nothing but the runaround. After more than three months of calling and being
 told that the check would arrive "this week", "tomorrow", and "very soon
 now",
 I was hung up on by the receptionist after demanding to speak to a manager.
 You see, they needed to clear the lines so that other happy customers could
 call in.

 Finally we did get the check but they did not refund the sales tax (close to
 $100 on these modems in this high tax state). I gave up at that point because
 it just was not worth the hassle and aggravation they caused me. They did
 tell
 me they would send another check, but it never arrived.

 Now I use Practical Peripherals 14400FXMT modems and recommend them highly.
 I just bought the $99 LineLink modem but have not had a chance to put it
 though its paces yet. I would not use Global Village again.

 -Bill]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 09:54:01 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Adam Hauerwas)
Subject: Hard Drive Leftovers

Okay, I asked earlier here what internal hard drives y'all buy.  I only got
a couple of responses, but two came in with good things to say about LaCie.

Anyway, next year I'm looking to upgrade ~30 hard drives, from 20's and
40's to 170MB or more.  What can I do with the leftover drives?

I know I can buy external cases for each -- but that hardly seems worth it
(one case per drive for 30 drives, only to add an additional 40MB to
someone's station).  Are there enclosures that have two or three SCSI
connectors, so I can build up to a 120MB external with three 40MB
internals?

What I think would be neat is for someone to build a RAID enclosure for
these.  Sure, they're old 40's that will die soon, but if I could take ten
of those and make a 400MB RAID level 0 or 1, that would make a nice drive
for a smaller file server....  Thanks in advance.
----
Adam Hauerwas, Macintosh Specialist | [e-mail]
Duff & Phelps Financial Consulting  | 55 E. Monroe, Ste. 3600, Chicago 60603

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 15:52:35 EST
From: [e-mail] (BRUCE HUMPHREY)
Subject: LaCie

To all,

If the latest note regarding LaCie's (nonexistent) repair support for
its own products is true and accurate, I think it would do us all well
to organize a LaCie boycott.  If the story proves out, you can be sure
I (being a primary Mac purchasing advisor on this campus and to
numerous external users) WON'T be recommending their products.  In
fact, I'll actively encourage buyers to look elsewhere whenever I'm
asked for recommendations or overhear discussions along those lines.

Hanging's too good for 'em.

Bruce
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 15:54:26 -0500
From: david james foremsky <[e-mail]>
Subject: LC upgrades?

A few questions on upgrading a Mac LC (the original)-

1. Is the upgrade to an LC III still offered?
2. Would simply adding memory (I have 4 MB now) increase performance at all?
3. What accelerators are recommended?

or

4. Should I just sell it to my sister and buy a new LC 475?

thanks in advance,
dave foremsky

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 16:03:34 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Christian Page)
Subject: mac viruses...unix viruses?

Hi everybody! I'm a mac user, and I know about viruses. Thanks to Disinfectant
to protect us against these malicious programs!!!

What I'd like to know if is there also viruses that could spread on my unix
box, like on the mac????

I've never heard of unix viruses, but do they exists???

Thanks for replies!!

Christian Page
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 17:40:31 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mark Dohm, UW-P Information Technology" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MO Drive Suggestions?

Hey fellow netters,

I need opinions and suggestions for 3.5" Magneto-Optical Drives for student
multimedia (quicktime, etc.) work. They would be used to store student
projects
and probably for playback as well (to some extent).

Thanks, Mark.  8^)    <[e-mail]>  AOL: MarkMAD

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 10:57:13 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: New Hard Drive Needed (Q)

Over this past weekend I was unfortunate to have my hard drive die on me.
It was a 5 year old MicroNet 46MB drive. Rather than pay to have it fixed I
have
decided to purchase a new drive and have found two interesting deals.

La Cie has their 170MB Tsunami drive for $239 and APS has a 170MB SR2000 drive
for $289.  Both use the Quantum 170ELS mechanism.  Is there any advise on
either
of these drives (or companies)?  (I know MacUser has a review of drives in the
upcoming March issue, but I can`t wait!)

Reply directly to me and I will summarize for the net.

Thanks,
Tom M.

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 14:50:12 +0100
From: [e-mail] ( Frank ROUSSEL )
Subject: PACo product

Do you know where it's available ?
Thanks in advance

The responsible of ASTROGOF project at Rennes' University of France F.ROUSSEL

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Date: Mon, 13 DEC 93 09:40:18 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Quadra 610 reset button (A)

I had a gratifying number of replies to my query about reset and
interrupt buttons on the Quadra 610. I will now wipe the egg
off my face, having found the subtly-hidden buttons on the back
of the machine. I should have read the manual more carefully -
it's in there, though not very prominently.
Cheers,
Eric Eisenhandler

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 21:05:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Donnie Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra 610 restart and debugger buttons

I believe that these two buttons are located on the back panel of the
Quadra 610 on the left side, directly across from the Macintosh Quadra 610
face label. They are really small, so look carefully. If possible, try to
get a direct back view to locate them, but they are there.

Donnie Williams
([e-mail])

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 16:24:48 EST
From: Bill Harrigan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra 660AV info (summary)

This may not be elaborate, but I had a couple of request to post my
findings...

The Quadra 660AV can record to/from a vcr without any expansion boards,
although only at 15-25 frames per second as opposed to the standard 30.

The built-in modem that you use through the Geoport adapter has a throughput
of 14.4kbps as opposed to the stated 9.6kbps.

None of the existing Macs support the Audiovision Monitor through a direct
connection...that is why it comes bundled with an adapter.

While you are digitizing video, the application that handles this takes
precedence over everything else, so you can't watch video in one window while
working in an application in another window.

The AV works great as an answering machine, however the hands-free phone
makes you sound like you are talking through a tube to the person on the other
end of the line.


***If anyone would care to add to this or even dispute anything stated, your
   information would be more than welcomed. *I would also like to thank the
   few people that took the time to answer my questions*.

Bill Harrigan
[e-mail]
The University of Rhode Island

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 19:34:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Donnie Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra 840AV RAM

No, you are not out of luck with having to put RAM in the 840AV in banks.
You can buy a 4MB 72-pin simm for your machine, or better yet,how about an
8 or 16. Speech Recognition is really ram hungry, so buy as much as you
can afford. You can insert any combination of simms into the banks of the
all new macs. No more "banking" of RAM.

Donnie Williams
([e-mail])

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 16:19:26 +0000
From: LCDRB Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re> Included Message on Apple

(FLAME ON)  I very strongly object to the inclusion of this message in issue
237 of the Info-Mac digest.  Info-Mac is a moderated digest whose sole purpose
is to provide a forum for Mac enthusiasts to discuss problems and concerns
dealing with the Macintosh.  This forum is not meant to be an opportunity for
individuals to advocate their own personal beliefs (no matter what they are).
There are certainly much more appropriate forums for you to post such a
messge.
  In the future please limit your posts to things that deal with the
  Macintosh.
  (FLAME OFF)

Brian Wright
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:44:03 -0600
From: [e-mail] (David D Kilzer)
Subject: sAVe the disk bugs

[e-mail] (mbb Bointon) writes:

>I have found that sAVe-the-disk breaks the effects part of the sound control
>panel, and also the AV DSP Power Photoshop plug-in on my 840AV.
>Removing sAVe-the-disk restores things to normal, but obviously does not deal
>with the problems that s-t-d deals with.

I have version 1.2 of sAVe the Disk installed on my Centris 660av and
haven't found that the Effects in the Sound control panel are affected.
(I don't think the Effects setting remains in effect after I reboot,
though I'm not sure about this.)

You can write the author of sAVe the Disk, Michael Thies, at
[e-mail].  He states in the ReadMe file:

     I am always interested in comments, suggestions and bug reports (sigh).

Dave
--
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 Dec 93 16:52:10 U
From: "Monika Kress" <[e-mail]>
Subject: slide maker

  slide maker                                 3:40 PM       12/13/93
Does anyone know the phone number of the Montage manufacturer of slide (film)
generators?  or, of a distributor?  I need to get a price quote for purchasing
one.  Thanks.
Please respond directly to " [e-mail] "

Monika Kress
Caltrans
Sacramento, CA

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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 00:00:22 -0600
From: (Pete Chane) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Software buying help

I am using a GeoPort to send FAXes.  I need some better FAX software to
manage my FAX transmissions.  Basically, I need to keep track of FAXes
according to docuement and recepient.  Apple's software does not track
things this way.  It would be even better if I could get some FAX software
to plug into Now Contact to show me FAX activity per contact entry.

Delrina's MacFAX Pro any good or FAXstf?

Thanks for your help and Happy Holidays!

PETER CHANE
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
I will be gone from 12/18/93 to 1/22/94.

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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 08:24:28 CST
From: [e-mail] (Linda Beatty PAWA
Library 827916)
Subject: Steam Tables

Hello,

We are seeking thermodynamic tables for water and steam in SI (metric units).
It is preferable for these tables to be suitable for a Macinstosh computer.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Linda.

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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 01:28:49 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Devon Hubbard)
Subject: Stress testing app called Porky ?

In article <2ehpk6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Herb
Schilling) wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
>  I remember reading somewhere a ( long ) while  ago that there was an
> application called Porky(?) that grabs disk space and memory to simulate
> low memory and disk space conditions for stress testing an app.
> I can't find this app anywhere. Is it still around ? Or is there
> --
> Herb Schilling , NASA Lewis Research Center , 21000 Brookpark Road, MS 142-4
> Cleveland, Ohio 44135 . [phone]       [e-mail]


For a very good Macintosh stress testing tool, get QC(tm) from Onyx
Technology.  It performs application stress testing with numerous tests
that include heap scrambles, purges, checks, invalidate free blocks, block
bounds checking, verify handles/ptrs, verify ReleaseResource/DisposeHandle
parameters, BlockMove bounds checking, Write to zero, deref zero, etc.,
etc., etc.  QC is much faster than other tools (e.g. Macsbug, TMON Pro, and
The Debugger) that perform comparable tests (like heap scrambles) and it's
much easier to use with it's Control Panel interface.  A full API is
supplied for those who want to control it from their code.

Onyx Technology can be reached at '[e-mail]' or [phone].


Devon Hubbard                                                Silicon Pilot
[e-mail]                                   Taligent, Inc

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:40:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: "G.J. Berry APEME (Microelectronics) ext 4570 " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Value 040

Hello all,
    Recently in MacUser UK there has been an advertisement for a new
accelerator board from Daystar for the LC, called the Value 040. It is
listed as "coming soon to your local dealer", which in Britain usually
means that it has already been launched in the US. I have been reading
with interest the comments about Apple's upgrade to the LC475 from the LC
II and LC III and the need for another power supply if this board is to
work on an original LC. Daystar are advertising their upgrade for the LC,
LCII, and several Performas. Has anyone had any experience of this
accelerator, (if indeed it is available at the moment)? I would not like
to spend a substantial sum of money on an accelerator board and find it
melts my power supply or something after a week or so! I do not expect it
would cause problems given Daystar's reputation but I'd like to be sure
anyway.
 Also, does anyone know if there is, or will be, a version with a
coprocessor? I assume that the standard Value 040 will have an 040 Lite
processor, which doesn't have a built in FPU, and some of my software
needs one.

Please reply by e-mail ([e-mail]) and I will summarise.

Thanks in advance,

Graham Berry
University of Dundee
Scotland

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 15:20:55 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Watermarks (C)

Following up John Thoo's comments about FullWrite's capabilities, you can
do watermarks very easily with any program that divides each page of text
into a foreground and a background (usually called "master") page. For each
template that you use you can duplicate the master for the title page, say,
and create a watermark on it. I use CricketDraw 3 to create grayscale
rotated text on FrameMaker master pages, for instance. You can either use
Import by Reference or Publish and Subscribe to link the template file to
the graphics program file. Import by Reference saves a bit on disk space,
Publish and Subscribe is a bit more flexible.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 11:36:36 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Malcolm Bebb)
Subject: Word Oddities

Sven Guckes ([e-mail]), wrote in with a
dual-word-weirdnesses question:

>2)  The index says something about 83 pages.
>    However, there seem to be only 73 pages.  :-(

If Tonya's suggestion to re-run the index doesn't give the right answer,
make sure that any hidden text is hidden - as in not showing on the monitor
:-)
I've found that running an index with Show hidden text enabled can cause
errors in an index.

Good luck,



Malcolm     [e-mail]  (Usual disclaimers apply)
       [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 16:26:33 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Word temp files and recovery

Hi Info-Mac readers,

I've noticed that Word Temp files seem much less prevalent in version
5.1 than they did in version 4 and version 3.02.  They used to be left
quite often in the system folder, but sometimes they could be very
useful at _recovering_ unsaved changes by launching the temp file with
the document you were trying to recover.

Is this no longer supported?  MS seemed to get a fair amount of flak
about the temp files multiplying in the system folder. Is this still
worth trying, or was this feature given up in an earlier version?
I experimented by force quitting, but there was no temp file left
to work with.

Thanks in advance,

--Brian Pickerill  <[e-mail]>

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